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#1
Just had my neighbours around and they too were asking about any detail regards to updates as we've not seen any BT activity / Works on any of the cabinets particularly on cabinet 4. Can you provide as much info as you have so I can pass this information onto the locals.

Many thanks
#2
Good Morning Matthew,

I trust we find you well.

All Wainfleet cabinets are in phase 4 and due to start build from October. However, we are moving very quickly to put up cabinet shells in advance of full implementation and you should see Wainfleet starting soon. I have sent an enquiry to BT to see if I can get a more specific update on cabinet 4 and will get back to you as soon as we get this.

Regards
steve
#3
Good Morning Matthew,

Please see comments from BT below.

Wainfleet Cab 4 is in the plan for delivery September (Q2). It’s fed out of Skegness; the spine has commenced just this week and if I can the cabs stood early, I’ll try and get Wainfleet4 in as quick as I can,

We will monitor the position but please be assured that BT are moving very quickly to get things done.

Regards
Steve
#4
I have a question regarding FTTC sync speeds. Is the distance measured from a property to the new NGA cabinet or the original cabinet?

The reason I ask is because I've noticed online that the new NGA cabinet for Wainfleet #4 is actually going to be located approximately 40-50 meters away from the original cabinet. Currently my line length is approx 900-1000 meters in total from the exchange. The original cabinet is about 250 meters from my house and the new cabinet would be about 200 meters from my house but am initially guessing that the route would be: Exchange -> NGA Cabinet -> PCP Cabinet -> Property

Hope someone can clear this up, many thanks
#5
Hi Matthew,

You have essentially answered your own question in the configuration of the cable route as you suggest at the end of your message.
Under the existing set up (ADSL) the electronics (DSLAM) is in the Exchange, but under the upgraded FTTC set up, the DSLAM will be in the NGA cabinet. The close proximity of the DSLAM to your property should ensure very high speeds.

Regards
Steve
#6
Yeah it's a shame that the new NGA cabinet isn't being built next to the original cabinet as that means the cable route will have to have an extra 50m added so the copper run will actually be 300m instead of 250m
#7
Hi Matthew,

That's true, but at circa 300m from the cabinet you will enjoy very high speeds and the extra 50m will have no noticeable affect I feel.

Regards
steve
#8
Have been noticing the local works going on the 3 cabs for Wainfleet as I go to and from work. 2 huawei cabs have already been delivered and installed the ground works completed for all 3 sites but have noticed that cab 4 has had 3 different nga cabs in containers delivered and then removed over the last 3 days. I seen BT engineer on 1 of the cabs and tried to ask him about some simple questions about local works to which he denied that existence of any nga works going on. Very strange................
#9
Hi Matthew,

Apologies for my delayed response. I will discuss Wainfleet with the BT guys tomorrow and update ypou from there.

Regards
Steve
#10
Hi Matthew,

Cabinet 4 at Wainfleet is stood and ready to go, but it requires heavy cable recovery to finalise the feeding fibre cables. This is ongoing and we are not aware of any significant slippage, so expecting a completion date shortly.

Regards
steve
#11
Hi Stephen,

I'm looking out my front window and the NGA cabinet still has NOT have been installed as of 1:47pm on 28/08/14 at the bottom of Magdalen Road, Wainfleet. Cabinets 5 and 6 have had their cabinets installed and completed. I had submitted a photo to Owen of the NGA cabinets proposed location. I suggest you contact him for a copy of the photo and re-visit Openreach to find out what is actually going on and it would appear you have been told incorrect information
#12
Hi Matthew,

Thanks for briniging this to my attention, we are looking into this now.

Regards
Steve
#13
Hi Matthew,

I think we have got to the bottom of the missing cabinet. Please see note from BT below.

We will keep you updated as we move forward on this one.

Thanks
Steve

Steve,

Wainfleet 4 was stood but due to a customer complaint (Survey company said it was Highways land but it turned out to be private), we had to pull down this cab and it is now in for a re-plan for location,

Regards
#14
Just seen a BT Openreach engineer in the village. He too confirmed the complaint was the reason that the NGA cabinet hadn't been stood in the original intended location. When I kindly asked him if he had any news on it's relocation plan, he said that he felt it would be at least another 6-12 months before we would see a cabinet re-planned and then would have to wait extra time for the fibre and power to be connected which could mean an even longer wait.

Not good news :(
#15
Hi Matthew,

Thanks for the update.

I did discuss this cabinet with Openreach last Thursday and whilst they didn't specify a completion date, I would seriously doubt it would be anything like 6 months, let alone 12 months.
They are aware of the urgency and I will seek a clearer indication of likely date at this week's meeting.

As soon as I get this, I will update.

Regards
Steve
#16
Is there any update on the plans / new location?
#17
Is there any update on the plans / new location?
#18
Hi Matthew,

I'm told that a location has been agreed and plans are being finalised. Assuming no further issues, we will get this built within a few weeks.

Regards
steve
#19
Hi Matthew,

I'm told that a location has been agreed and plans are being finalised. Assuming no further issues, we will get this built within a few weeks.

Regards
steve
#20
Hi Steve,

Saw your reply a few days ago and happened to see an Openreach engineer today on my way to the shops. It just happened to be the same engineer I saw last time and asked him if there was any update and his response was that due to a complaint from a landowner cabinet #4 is looking to be installed after Christmas and would be enabled within the first few months of 2015 if all goes well. Not really sure what to make of his response given what he said the last time I spoke to him
#21
Hi Matthew,

I am looking at latest project plan from BT and they assure me it will be done before Xmas. I am pushing them for a more specific date, but absolute worse case is Xmas.

I will update the forum as soon as they give me something more.

Regards
steve
#22
As this is the only Wainfleet Forum to post on, I thought it would be helpful to point out that i drove past a Fibre Networks Solutions van on the A52 (Just past the Golf Course Junction), they were pulled up at the side of the road and a worker had some red cables over his shoulder and some of the road dug up. I assume they are laying Fibre cables here.
#23
Hi Emile,

Thanks for writing in. I can confirm that FNS are working on this project at the moment.

Regards
Steve
#24
Yes I seen them too near the Elms Golf Course around 10:30am yesterday morning. On my way back from Skegness at 4pm I saw that they had got as far as Warth Lane on the A52 with what I presume was the spine cable installation. As for news on the ground with cabinet #4 there is still no visible activity. Seems that Openreach themselves are lagging behind yet the external contractors seems to be getting on with things just fine
#25
Good Afternoon Matthew,

I am told that BT will stand the new cabinet (Cabinet 4) on 31st October, so should complete fairly soon afterwards. As soon as I get more, I will update you.

Regards
Steve
#26
Hi Steve,

Cabinet #4 was stood on the 22nd October which was good to see. When can we now expect all the cabinets in Wainfleet to go live as they appear to have all had the fiber fed to each cab.
#27
Hi Matthew

Steve is currently out of the office, but I will try to answer your question.

Once the cabinets have been enabled fully, inclusive of the new fibre link and electric connection, it takes approximately 2 weeks for the cabinet to become 'customer ready for service.' After this point BT and other ISPs can begin to sell products from this cabinet. If BT provide a date for CRFS we will forward it on, but it looks like the wait could be over in the next couple of weeks for Wainfleet 4 which is great news!

Kind regards
Naomi
#28
Hi Naomi,

Thank you for the prompt response. Well going off the information that www.roadworks.org is providing for timescales for all the Openreach related works between Skegness to Boston it would suggest that a "couple of weeks" is an optimistic answer. Whilst I understand the BDUK fibre rollout is under the control of Openreach, I think it's becoming clear from other members of the public who are posting on these forums that certain areas are beginning to fall behind which is extremely frustrating given that many cabinets are being stood a long time before they become "ready for service".

To me personally, from what I have seen on the ground and read on various forum posts it would seem that the rollout is a bit of a muddle and unproductive. Here in Wainfleet the first 2 cabinets were stood nearly 3 months ago, the 3rd cabinet was stood nearly 2 weeks ago and the last cabinet is going in within the next 2 weeks. I'm sure this is the case for many other areas too. What I would like to know is why Openreach have been spreading the installation of cabinets in a bit of a random order. Surely the most productive way to get individual exchanges up and running with FTTC is to start on 1 particular exchange, install each cabinet 1 by 1 and then move onto the next village rather than do 1 or 2 cabs in an area, move onto another area and then come back to the original area to add another 1 or 2 cabs at a later date?
#29
Dear Matthew

I apologise if you are not happy with progress - I will pass your thoughts onto BT.

With a engineering build as large as this delays are inevitable. BT are rolling the programme out in the most resourceful way.

Differing teams carry out differing parts of the work - one team will position the cabinet and another will carry out the engineering etc. You cannot power a DSLAM if it is not in situ. This is why multiple areas are worked on at the same time, to make use of the fluid work stack.

I am sorry that you feel the rollout is unproductive. I will also pass this remark on to BT.

Regards
Naomi
OnLincolnshire Broadband Team
#30
Matthew - I have spoken to BT and passed on your comments. I have also asked them about the status of this cabinet and they say that the fibre has not yet arrived at Wainfleet 4 as previously suggested - works are still progressing on this front.

This cabinet is due to be upgraded in Phase 4 of the programme, between 31/10/2014 - 31/03/2015 so we are within timescale at present. I am sure this cabinet will be completed before the end of March 2015

Regards
Naomi
#31
I seen that the last project status for Wanfleet #4 was:

"Cable recovery has been completed; caballing resource is pulling in sub-duct this weekend"

I like everyone else do very much appreciate the updates but would just like to know if future updates could be worded in a more understandable manner for those who aren't so technically minded as I've just been replying to a few messages from locals here in Wainfleet who couldn't understand the technical meaning of "pulling in a sub-duct".

Also on another note, I've seen that Cabinet #3 has just been installed today. According to Roadworks.org the various works for fibre installation & the many duct blockages taking place between Boston and Skegness on the A52 seem to keep having their start dates pushed further back and appear to be moving on in to December which is disappointing as I'm guessing that until those works are complete, Wainfleet nor any other exchange along that route won't be going live.

Can't understand why Naomi suggested on the 3rd November that Wainfleet 4 could have been up and running in a couple of weeks??
#32
Good Morning Matthew,

I take the point re. the wording of our updates and we will attempt to keep away from technical jargon going forward.

I know we are experiencing some delays in the area with Highways moving dates around, but I will attempt to get a realistic view of a completion date from BT at tomorrow's meeting and update from there.

Regards
Steve
#33
Just been informed that at Cabinet 4 today was a company called "Telent" doing some works on the cabinet. Anyone know what this was about?
#34
Hi Matthew,

Telent are a apart of Carillion Telent who are BT's main contractor across the UK. They do a number of things for BT such as fibre work, copper work, civils, commissioning etc. so their presence today would have been around finalising the actual cabinet build.

Regards
Steve
#35
Ok sounds good. Am I right in thinking that if they are in the stages of finalising the cabinet build that the cabinet itself won't be ready for any kind of service until the other works out on the A52 are completed. Cabinet 3 has had it's original PCP replaced with a brand new box and roadworks.org is showing that they are still going to install a new NGA cabinet and provide power which has a finish date as far away as the 18th December.
#36
Hi Matthew,

Yes, you're right, we would need to finish the 'Spine' fibre on the A52 before we could complete the cabinet.
In the interim, we are trying to get as much preparatory work completed to keep timescales to a minimum when the spine is completed.

Regards
steve
#37
Just seen the latest update for Cabinet 4 which is good news. Can I ask if the planned works for cabinet 3 are going to affect the RFS dates for cabinet 4 and others as I still see on roadworks.org that cabinet 3 has got works planned from 5th to 18th December or will Openreach bring the other NGA cabs online and then continue to work on #3 separately?

#38
Hi Matthew,

Cab 4 will go ahead and will not be affected by other work ongoing at the moment. as soon as 4 goes 'Live' we will let you know.

Regards
steve
#39
I've just been informed that Cabinet 5 in the centre of Wainfleet has gone live as the BT checker is now showing FTTC stats for numbers served by that cabinet.

Cabinet 4 + 6 are still without any data yet at present but am hoping these will both follow shortly
#40
I know last weeks update for #4 mentioned that it was RFS and awaiting the 2 week period to pass so have been keeping an eye on the BT availability checker (https://www.dslchecker.bt.com) for when cabinets 4 & 6 are taking orders but nothing at present.

I've just seen on Roadworks.org that both PCP and NGA cabinets for #4 have had blockage works raised on both locations for between the 12th and 16th Dec. Will these works add any delays as I thought all blockages etc would have been rectified before the cabinet was commissioned and given the RFS status?
#41
Have just seen an engineer for Future Network Solutions who are currently connecting the NGA cabinet to the PCP cabinet which I honestly thought had already been done given the last project update
#42
Good Morning Matthew,

Just had the latest on wainfleet 4 from BT. Sadly, they have told us that they made a faux pas in telling us it was RFS last week. They now reckon it will be RFS by Monday and then ready 2 weeks after.

My apologies for this, but we can only report what we are told. we will keep an eye on this today and see what the status is later today.

Regard
Steve
#43
I completely understand that you can only report on what you are told. This slip up is yet another example of many where BT have given out false / inaccurate information which is very disappointing as it does nothing for public/consumer confidence
#44
Can I ask if the cabinet is now RFS as the blockage and connection works all appeared to have been done on Friday 12th
#45
Also just been informed that Cabinet 6 has now gone live and confirmed via dslchecker.bt.com
#46
Just seen the latest update and its saying that its been made ready for service this week with a week to go but the update on the 19th said that it was rfs that week. Confused
#47
Good Evening

Apologies for the confusion - it was RFS last week and we expect it to be ready for orders in approx 1 week. I'll change the wording as it does seem to suggest this has only gone RFS this week

Thanks for pointing this out

Regards

Naomi
#48
Hi, has the cabinet in Croft near Wainfleet been done yet, not sure what number it is.

Thanks
#49
Hi Stuart,

Having looked at the addresses I have for the Wainfleet cabinets, I believe we are talking about Cabinet No. 1 which isn't yet completed. I will get the latest from BT this week and update the forum.

Regards
steve
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